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4:00 am
August 12, 2012


Jmacartney

Weare, NH

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posts 18

Ok, The rules meeting has happened and everyone survived, no blood was shed (a few tears maybe). Not having raced in 9 years what (as in cars and parts) do I need to get to start racing again. Please assume that I have nothing of value left in my race box. This ought to be interesting…

 

Jim

8:10 am
August 14, 2012


Paul

Higham, MA

Moderator

posts 21

This will be useful to those guys just starting out as well.

 

Well,  at least some of your tools should still be usable.  All my experience is with BSRT products so I will post that info.  Guys more familiar with the Slottech and Wizzard can jump with that info.

  • For the Production Class:
  • G-Jet
  • #915F Formula G-Jet Chassis– get's you the basic car.  
  • #878 G-Jet O-Ring Front Axle Assembly. — Optional.  Can be used when we run G-Jets with Lexan bodies
  • #888 G-Jet .032" Brass Handling Plate — Needed when we run G-Jets with Lexan bodies.
  • #HT161 2056 Threaded Aluminum Bdy Posts
  • BSRT 902
    • #902 "Box Stock" Rolling Chassis
  • Spec Stock
    • You can use the 902 with these changes:
    • #HT201 G3 Delrin Independent Front End Set
    • #HT267 .250" Diameter Double Flanged Rear Wheel Set
    • #HT268 .275" Diameter Double Flanged Rear Wheel Set
    • #375 "Super Tires" Narrow Assortment
    • #HT161 2056 Threaded Aluminum Bdy Posts

     

    I'll put something together for the Super Stock and CMPM cars and add it here.

    10:35 am
    August 14, 2012


    The Great Communicator

    Scituate, MA

    Member

    posts 11

    Post edited 10:37 am – August 14, 2012 by The Great Communicator


    Like Paul, I also use BSRT equipment.  I find it easier to stick with one manufacturer; the assembly techniques are universal as are the tools. 

     

    For Super Stocks I use the flexible chassis, #962 and flexible timing bracket, #926.  I like the #149 Hot Stock arm over the popular #148 arm because it's lighter, i feel it will spin up faster.  I don't use the gold plated electrical components because I'm cheap and I'm doubtful about the real benefits they offer but if you're feeling rich, by all means, they certainly don't hurt.  I like the Scale Engineering bronze bushings, they're a slightly tighter fit than Gary's Beedle Bushings and I feel for Super Stock, they run better (this is NOT true for G-Jets…).  Ceramic magnets are required so not many options (other than Tony's G3R traction magnets but let's not go there…).  I use the twisted endbell, again with a Scale Engineering bushing.  I always run a 7T Delrin pinion and a 22T Delrin Crown Gear regardless of the track.  That's an area I want to experiment with more this year.  I usually use an 0.008" pick up spring (#221) with an 0.005" helper spring, again another area I want to play with more this year.  I like the extended guide pin (#167) but I shorten it by 0.030" – that seems to work everywhere but on Bill Bonsma's Mightly Atlas track.  I now use Gary's titanium axle (HT222), it's the same price as the steel version so why not.  I take all these parts, put them in a box and shake until assembled… 

     As for CMPM Modifieds, i'm the wrong guy to offer help.  My bone pile keeps getting larger and larger.  The cars are a blast to drive but I haven't figured out how to keep them cool.  I always have a fire extinguisher handy whilst running them… 

    Good luck,

    John Reimels

    7:20 pm
    August 14, 2012


    Jmacartney

    Weare, NH

    Member

    posts 18

    Thanks for the info. Anyone else??

    8:39 am
    August 31, 2012


    stez1970

    Member

    posts 5

    Jim,

    I do not feel that a HOT Stock arm is needed for a G-Jet to perform well. Some of the best G-Jets are stock arms. I do suggest the G-Jet pick up shoes to reduce arching.

    For the Spec Class 902 I would consider the RTV Super Tire. You may need to file the edge of the outside and inside tire. You may want to purchase several of each color since the tires maynot be the exact same size. They are not injected molded and may vary.

    I would also try the BSRT new silicone non RTV  injected molded tires with rounded off edge. They presently have four size rims .275, .280, .285 and .290. If I'm not mistaken they have 3 or 4 tire sizes which will include a firmer or harder tire as well. You will need to check with Gary since the part numbers are not on the web site at this time. I think he is coming out with a card that you can carry around which will show the tire sizes using specific size rims. I think that the lowest size diameter with tire and rim will come in around .422 but you will need to check with him.

    I'm not sure about the brass bushing that John Reimels is mentioning as far as fit.

    I think the most popular SS crown gear is 23 tooth but that will vary from track to track and car.

     

    In general I do not use the twisted end bell in Super Stock. They have pros and cons

    I would not suggest the ceramic Slottech magnets they do not fit in the car and when forced into the chassis, bends the gear box. The chassis has been tested by many other outside sources including Harden Creek under product review.

    Peter has also placed the chassis in his  chassis jig using the Slottech magnets. I'd call him for the results. He can tell you how straight is any HO to 1/24 scale chassis  Being an engineer and having testing equipment available you can be your own judge. You also know some of the best  drivers and car builders in the country. You can make many phone calls regarding this issue.

     

    Titaniun axles, yes

    Silicone sponge tires, AST. Presently they are not discontinued. I also like Sheppard, Sluggo, Slottech yellow, Wizzard radical radial black

    Gold, maybe. I think as long as you clean and polish the parts, you'll be fine with copper.

    8:50 am
    August 31, 2012


    Paul

    Higham, MA

    Moderator

    posts 21

    For SS I use a 21 or 22 tooth crown.  Another source for sponge silicone tires is Slade Brown.  He has three different levels of firmness.

    9:46 am
    August 31, 2012


    stez1970

    Member

    posts 5

    Is Sluggo and Slade brown the same?

    9:46 am
    August 31, 2012


    stez1970

    Member

    posts 5

    Is Sluggo and Slade brown the same?

    9:51 am
    August 31, 2012


    Paul

    Higham, MA

    Moderator

    posts 21

    Yes

    9:48 pm
    September 29, 2012


    Jmacartney

    Weare, NH

    Member

    posts 18

    Sure has been quiet around here.

    Stuff's been ordered and on it's way. Time to clean out the old slot box, and reorgainize.

    Hope to see you guys in Nov.

     

    Jim

    10:27 am
    September 30, 2012


    Paul

    Higham, MA

    Moderator

    posts 21

    Excellent Jim!  I'll have a band new body for you to put on one of those cars.

    7:03 am
    October 14, 2012


    Jmacartney

    Weare, NH

    Member

    posts 18

    Order is in, but the G-jets were back ordered.  Cry

    9:17 am
    October 14, 2012


    Paul

    Higham, MA

    Moderator

    posts 21

    I'll check to see if there are any left at Modelville.

    11:49 am
    October 17, 2012


    Paul

    Higham, MA

    Moderator

    posts 21

    None at Modelville.  Rich is waiting for some from Gary.

    10:00 am
    October 19, 2012


    Jmacartney

    Weare, NH

    Member

    posts 18

    Thanks for checking..

    7:24 am
    October 27, 2012


    Jmacartney

    Weare, NH

    Member

    posts 18

    G-Jets are in the house!

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